Conversations with Mavis Salazar Mayan Priest and Therapist.

Today’s conversation is with Mavis Salazar Mayan Priest and registered Therapist.  We talk about her experience of becoming a Mayan priest, and how it can also translate to your own spiritual journey and experience. Come join us as we journey through high and lows and some ways you can bring support into your walk with spirit.

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Mavis Salazar

✨Mayan Priest, 💗Registered Therapist

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Welcome to mystical musings podcast, where we connect to spirit and give you different perspectives on spiritual topics and engaging conversations with community leaders, healers and teachers. Today's healer is Mavis Salazar. She is the child of the Chicano movement born and raised in Denver, Colorado.

She was born and reared by two really strong Chicano leaders. And she is a cure Mandera has south. And in 2009, she was adopted in ceremony by the 63 Mayan communities in the Mayan nation and in Guatemala. And she became the first Chicano ordain Mayan priest. She has her masters in indigenous and integrative health and is a registered therapist specializing in traditional and transitional therapy.

She works with individuals, adolescents, and families, their. She helps to release trauma and bring harmony into one's life. She maintains a private practice here in Denver, Colorado, and she owns her own business with grandmother house of herbs and cures, and is the executive director of two Chiba us nonprofit organization.

Welcome Maven. Hey, I nice to be here. I can be lucky to say Mavis is someone that I've really gotten to know the last year and has become a friend. And one of the persons that I really find that we get the same information. So it's always nice. When you see spirit given the same kind of. Downloads guidance and people don't look at you like, wow, that is so true.

We can talk for hours. And I just love doing ceremony with her. She's one of the people that I have a lot of respect for. Tell me a little bit about yourself. So our listeners know who you are and what you do. Right. Okay. So I've been introduced to the world of healing, pretty these small ever since I was like, since I was young girl 16, my uncle was one of the first Chicano, some dancers after the battle.

And in 1976, the Carter was able to sign the treaty with the native people. And practice their own religion in their own way. And that was huge because before that it was equal to practice. Sundance equal can have sweats and Sage burning ceremonies, everything was illegal. And in 76 it was. So my uncle was one of the lawyers that thought in the wounded knee battle and was able to do the Sundance and the part of representing the Chicano people in the Sundance.

So spirituality native spirituality and healing practices have been going on forever in my, in my journey. So I really respected that. He taught me about the herbs and he went to Mexico and learned about. And then when I was younger, I moved to Mexico with my first husband and my children were very ill in my mother-in-law fast fed was quoting data.

So she taught me what she knew about the children, healing the kids with her. And came back to America and, you know, just continued my journey. Uh, what Jerry healer, you're always dealer, no matter where you go, God finds you. I been practicing in the west Southwestern tradition with

and the practices that they do. And there's a lot of it is Mashika and I wasn't really. Didn't really gel with me. Maybe she could wait. I just, my dad always told me I wasn't Shika. I was whole NUCCA, you know, and I needed to honor that and I didn't understand what he meant. So I went deeper into south deeper south where I met the Maya and I kind of stayed with the Maya and I've been with them since 2009.

To Guatemala every year, maybe twice to three times a year. I had a herbal school down there for years and I just, it's still in my body. It's still, my DNA is still smelled the jungle. It's just amazing what spirit leads you to in your journey. So that's a little bit of my journey. I dunno. Oh, no, I love that.

I just actually learned some stuff about you. That's amazing. So for our listeners, what is the ? Some of them don't understand that term when we use it. If they're outside of the community, the according data is basic person that heals. That's all. Is to heal it's everybody else puts too much stuff into it.

So that's basically all it is, is a person that heals with natural remedy. And we have the actor of the day. It was the spiritualist, it was the massage therapist. It was the psychometric. And it was the spiritualist and the master of all. That's what, according to ETA is the herbalist or, yeah, I think I could take herbalist.

Each person has their own practice of how they, what they work in. You're very lucky to find masters of all. I was taught by masters of all when I ended up in Mexico, but me and myself personally, And the only thing that I don't do, I'm not a soap  I don't massage people, but I do do energy work. And nowadays we have, because of there's so much out there so much more, and we're so connected to the world that we can be acupuncturist.

We can be healing. With the energy, we can be Chinese medicine. We can be almost anything that the world has to offer. I also do Tibetan healing, sound healing medicine. So don't limit ourselves to what was in the past, because right now we have so much more in our future and an it now. And that's what occurred in that it is, is a person who takes the time out to be able to offer their service.

I love that. I love that rendition of how you just said that, and I'm totally aligned with you that it doesn't have to be one set way. That is an eclectic beauty of all the different healing modalities that you can work with and bring in for your own different medicine. And we all carry our own medicine and I love.

That's how you express that, that it is okay to bring in those other pieces. They're just enhanced your medicine, right? And you're like, yeah, me and you are really strong on sound and vibration and frequency. And that was one of the reasons that we couldn't connect it so well is because we see that energy in the body and how to work with it and how to move with it.

And people she's a great healer. Listen, she's one of the few people I I'm very particular about who would do energy work on me. And I, you're definitely one that I would allow that at work, you're talking about stepping into the Mayan way and that you're in my in priest. Let's talk a little bit about more of that and how, what was the training and all that like, well, you know, I was the first that stepped in this way and tendonitis, everything could always say.

By coincidence, but it opens the path for many people through it. So the end of first it was my way was extremely traditional. I had to go to the mountains in Guatemala, go to the 13 sacred sites in Guatemala to be able to do a ceremony and prayer and rituals within the Guatemalan jungles in different places.

To be able to be accepted, not only accepted by the Maya people, but also by the Maya enter energies, deities that I work with because, you know, you're opening up the portals of very ancient ways and you need to be receptive to that. So when I went down there, that's why I opened up the school down there.

The herbal school, is it for. And it gave me the funds to be able to go down there multiple times in one year to be not only work with the herbs and work with people, but also learn about the, my, uh, spirituality and traditions. It, my way, my path was very related to. It was very traditional, I mean, in the jungle, in the brain during hurricanes, whatnot, being able to sit in the mountains with the other mind priests and do the traditional prayers and whatnot was amazing.

Being able to have that opportunity nowadays. Much simpler where people take a class. I think they just, I don't know how it's done nowadays here in Denver. My way was very traditional, very poorly and very adventurous and exciting. And it helped me with my trauma because I was going through a very bad, very bad marriage at that time.

And I had a lot of PTSD. Trauma. And it really gave me the guts to stand up to my husband and say, no, must no must I can't deal with this. I can't deal with this. He was trying to kill me. So, you know, I was, I was trying to get away from that. So I moved down to Guatemala and. Dangerous and crazy. It gave me the guts to really stand up for myself and say no more.

Uh, you have no power over me and really live a more healthy life. I taught you how to step into your own power in your own truth and take that back from you. And when we talk about tradition, people I'm talking like you can't have notebooks, you can't do any of that. You are literally. Fasting for days here in ceremony the whole time.

And it, this is not for the weak hearted. And so when you hear her, like the true hardcore, like training, she did it. And it's not like these little mini hikes to some of these sacred sites know they're, they're intense. They're um, they push your mind, your body and your. In such a deep way that people don't understand unless they even try to do something like that.

Right. I can tell you a story. I would love it. Yeah. Share a story. So this one that we did with Guatemala has a lot of hurricanes, and so we were going to a ceremony and it was up in the mountains. And, uh, when I say mountains, mountain paradise, So we had to walk there, like it's only form out it's over.

I'm like, okay, let's do it. So we crossed over the little Creek and then one mountain, two mountains, three mountains, we're in the fourth mountain. And the hurricane started. It's like, okay, what did we say? And it was like midnight. And so we had to stay until two o'clock in the morning. And what should we did?

So each person, each group of people with their own fiddle, they sat in their own little spot. Sat by myself in the place, the right underneath the, say the tree save a tree is the tree is the tree of Nexion of the underworld middle world that not pole. So that's where I was placed. And as they knew, I had a connection with you.

Same thing. Let's save a tree, always talk. So I sat down at the same, a train it's huge. It's like three stories high. And in the middle, in the bottom of the trunk is like a cake. So it's kind of the protection, but I was all alone. And all I had was a garbage bag over my body for protection from the rain.

It rained and rained in me. So finally, around two o'clock coats, a break and we're like, okay, that's. We all got up sarcoma, but the mud on the path started slide down. And when I say it's slides down, you're talking about. Maybe five stories high, you know? So then I was walking down with my two little sticks cause I'm like, okay, I'm from Denver.

I can ski down this mountain. Right. So I like walking down with these two little sticks and then each and on each side, one was a little pole. Trust us trusting then. Huh? You know, that's the worst. No, I can't do that. No. So I was holding onto my sticks and then finally I was just like, okay, I have to trust.

So I dropped my sticks, watched them go down the hill and I grabbed these people's hands and we all kind of hug the mountain, going down, holding each other's hands. It was tremendously dangerous, you know, but we did it all together. And then when we moved to Creek the Creek. Not a Creek anymore. Um, okay.

They all want to jump over. And before that, the children told me the story, how the river always takes children and they have to be careful. And we had a little boy. I said, no, we have to wait until it goes down and I don't speak their language. They don't speak my language. So it's all sign language. And so we were able to wait and we prayed with the cigar and the.

Slow down. Slow down and it kind of went back to its Creek. So we were able to jump over the river and then all of a sudden, as soon as the jump boom, ane started coming down again and the river, the Creek, but we were able to get back safely. We were able to get back safety to that because we had. Cross two more adventures before we're able to get to the that's.

What I'm talking about when she did traditional that's traditional people,

you make my story of my sit, seem like a baby's lock. I had microbursts coming down on me on my whole Chicano. I was just wrapped in my little tarp, just praying, but you learn. I see that like when things, and perhaps surveillance comes towards you in life, you remember those sets and you remember that journey.

And you're like, if I can do that, I can do any, right. Yeah. Because I was able to come home and be challenged. Yeah. And his, every venture that I'd go on a come home. And it'd be challenged and I'm like, what's going on here? And it took that much for me to be able to move my, uh, in Denver. So it took a lot to be able to move my trauma.

And I guess I was determined to, because I did it. Takes a lot to be able to move what you're stuck in, you know, it's, they call it the snake pit and you're all surrounded by all these snakes. Maybe we need to talk city of snake. So what does it take to get you out of that dark pit? And sometimes it takes a lot, sometimes it all depends on the person.

That's what I love about what your medicine does. You're about empowering others and then indigenous way. And that's really important. I think it's really important that our community understand it is about community. It's about connection. It's about not navigating this world alone. Right. And I've been able to be with you in several community events now, and I love how you bring that shadow piece in, but in a really heartfelt way.

And, um, I don't see a lot of people being able to navigate that easily either. So I'm just saying. That's a great way and hearing your stories. I see why empowering others is really important. Why do you think it's important for people to learn empowerment, navigate their spiritual journey? So, well, empowerment is really important for anybody just get up in the morning and start, you know, and the challenges are always different.

I am facing other challenges right now. It's like, and sometimes it's, it's hard to navigate that morning that I have to say, okay, I can pick it up. I can do this. So when people try to navigate their own spirituality, what is that? It's connecting back with their spirit. They're there basically, we're born with a NOAA.

That's the S you know, the NOAA is the person that with ego that understands the emotion and feelings. And so we have in the world with that, that then we also have our. That our soul is us or heavenly south us. But then, then a lot of disconnect, some more somehow, somewhere in America, especially in wisdom.

Well, we don't believe in that. We think it's like jibberish. There's a disconnect. So when you're trying to empower yourself through. To that pole. That's the spirit or soul. That individual that is up in the sky. We want to connect with that, to be able to say, this is who we really are. And sometimes we need to empower ourselves to be able to do that because we face daily challenges in this world on this, a lot of saying, I gotta wake up, I gotta pay deals.

I've got to take my kids. I got all these challenges that I'm dealing with. How am I supposed to connect with them? If I can't even tell them. Right now. And a lot of times you get depressions because that's where the two challenges are. It's our emotion and our fake ideas that we have in our brain of why we can't do it.

So when we empower ourselves to be able to say, I can do this. And not only that I have to do this, I think that's when you realize how strong we are, if, when we have to and are challenged, because we don't,  when we're able to finally balance out a whole life, that's when we're able to breed. Because everybody wants to, cause everybody feels disconnected.

Right. You know, they feel disconnected. They don't know why. So a lot of times they go to alcoholism or whatever, just to have that escape and then they feel lonely inside. And then they're like, oh, I need next month. That's when they. Start searching, but it takes, it took them a journey to be able to speak to that.

Unfortunately, in the Western society, they have to do this whole journey and the Maya tradition you're connected right away when you're born. You get your energy, you get a blueprint and then you find out who you are and that makes your life a little bit easier. Cause you never disclose because when you do become disconnected, you get balanced with the ceremonies and whatnot, and it helps you along the way.

Unfortunately in this society. So the journey is long but necessary. Yeah. So that's why impairment is so important because you have to go through a journey to find them I need. And you mentioned ceremony and rituals, and I'm huge on ceremony and rituals. I feel it is. That's the gateway to connecting us to our higher source and to source energy itself.

Why do you feel ceremony and ritual is important to. I see, like how you said the higher self, you connect it with ceremony and ritual. Doesn't have to be complicated. Sometimes when I get challenged, I'll do a ceremony, every command. I that's what the ancestors, I like candles. So all of my ancestors, the photograph, so I can eliminate some light in their path.

And then my ancestors. Understanding what's happening because it's a little crazy, it's as simple as just a breath of prayer meditating, I need to connect, or it can be as complicated as getting. You know, the fire, Rachel's getting all of the vendors together, making sure to take time and having some people there to celebrate.

It's so important just to be able to recognize the energies above, below, in and out, even in yourself to make sure that you are recognizing what is there. No, I think we've gotten a disconnect that everyone thinks they have to go outside themselves to find this information. Our this connection to spirit and it's all within us.

It's within our DNA. It's literally written it's in DNA and it's part of us. A lot of us is especially the Mayan traditions are star seed people. Now they carry that, that higher vibration and frequency and information. And we always think we have to go to a teacher to, yes, you can learn that people, teachers are always a guidance and giving us tools and the information and how to apply them.

But no matter what you carry that information inside, you're the one who applies it into your life. You're the one who walks through. You're the one who does, who dictating how it's gonna, how it's gonna be spread out. And that's where we have to take our own power back. Right. We have to take a note that we have this and then to honor that within ourselves, that so many people right now, because they're not.

And it has some searching and they're on a journey that they find teachers called Scots basically to take their own, take care of power away from them. And it's an abusive situation. It's a narcissistic, you know, when you go into. Teachers that are around. Unfortunately they disempower them. They make you feel like you feel like you're not working without them.

And they're so masterful at it that you find yourself following these people forever when you're only. They're supposed to be a guide to help, to get to where you need to go. Exactly. But then they, there you are their income. So you're basically your battery, the source that they need to survive. So they become very controlling, very negative.

And if it's an abusive relationship and you don't even know. Toxic relationship with your teacher that you love and hate at the same time. And you just don't know where to put all this information because you feel so alone. One of the things I always tell people, you know, my clients or students or anyone, I'm human, I'm human in a human experience.

I am just the messenger, nothing more, that's it. And we're here to support each other. We're here to walk on the journey. And if you ever work with a teacher that's not working on themselves.

like run and in the spirit, doesn't only give us one path, even like with your medicine, there's this eclectic, beautiful kaleidoscope of all of these different energy modalities that are, are being displayed with. And that's the same when you working with anybody, it doesn't have to be a set path if you're drawn to something.

And that's what you go towards, listen to your heart, your spirit will guide you. That's what I always say. What do you think is the biggest misconception around your work? So people think I'm the bad term with, you know, because they're like, oh, you're a witch you're with, I'm like, you're evil, you're evil.

And that is the biggest misconception that we have. I don't even understand what that means, that they want me to be an evil person. They want me to worship the devil. He want me to, you know, all this other stuff and I'm not, you have no bell casting. I just don't even know what that is. Most of the time people they put scales on themselves.

Versus other people putting spells on them. People put that thoughts on people. So that's one of the misconceptions, the biggest one. The other one is that we have to give our services for free. That's also very big. You're not a true code data, unless you conditioned, this is for free. And I'm like, well, you know, I got my education.

I have a master's degree with golf course degree. I've moved through the jungle. I've paid for all of this. Why should I give my service for free when pay for doctors? Don't you? Well, I'm a golfer. That's an aspect of the energy exchange is what it is, right? Yeah. And there's a value in what you bring to the table with your messages and with the energy and people don't understand, it can be draining.

Yes. You'd know how to be that hollow bone, but the things that you carry and have to. Navigate through can be really intense. We see we're working on different dimensions. We're just not working on this physical plane. We're working on energy dimensions and energy other beings that we have to navigate.

Right. To understand how that can, how difficult that is. It's like, it takes a lot of time and money to hollow that pole now. Yeah.

It takes years to navigate that. And then to even have that strength and that courage to come against some of the things that we come against, because some of these lower energies, they don't just come after us. They'll come after our whole family, after people that we love to try to intimidate to try to.

Navigate us away from helping this person. And people don't realize that that takes a lot of energy that we have to put out there for protection and empowerment, all that. And our cars attacking our car. Like I can't get there, but I can get your car tire. Oh yeah. And then when you mentioned, which if you go to the true meaning of which like the, the pagan Druid and all that, it is literally being connected to this.

Yeah. It was literally someone that works with the earth and that medicine. So when someone calls me, I, which I always say, thank you, nothing is, I was brought up being my mom and devil's child and I was musician. And I didn't even understand what that meant. I was like, I. Yeah. I went into a coven because I didn't know what the heck, anybody, everybody kept accusing me to D and then when I went into the apartment, I was like, oh, I guess you're right.

Because it was just working with the earth medicines, but the part where they said I was evil and the devil's child and all that and all this, and I'm like, I don't understand what you're saying. Cause I love earth and I love nature. And how can that be? Yeah. And I always tell people, like, know the whole story before you, you put those words on to people.

I might be, my sister was like one day she's Christian. She says, I don't see how people can be awake and how they can worship the devil on both of them. And I go, wait a second. The devil is a Christian God, which is, don't even believe in that's so much, right. When you give them back. When I sit there and tell me when I'm like around, you know, Christmas, Easter, those are all based off pagan holidays.

People who has been the most influential person in your life that kind of helped navigate this medicine journey for you.

Um, like he said to me, he never did anything with an agenda of outside of political, the battle of the , the person that was in the Chicano movement. And there they've really insisting that we go to sun down to the, um, witness this, the ELD. Ceremony can really, really feel the pelvis have been needed to be more indigenous and go outside your Spanish and Spanish.

And my mom, she's very insistent at that, but my dad, he was from Mexico and he's so. All the sides that you have, forget who you are. But my uncle, he was so insistent that we heard this, that I pregnant. I was the one that,

because I'm the only one that practices this tradition, my daughter sometimes. He still doesn't love that she very heartfelt position and she teaches her kids as long as we, my uncle plant the seed as long as one or two people collect. Absolutely. Cause it's like you said, it's planting that seed. It's it's like spreading that.

And then I always find that our kids express it differently. They all do their own little expression. At least with mine, they do, people are like more cheat don't you want them completely involved. And then. Their soul, their spirit will guide them to exactly where they need to be. Their journey is not going to look the same as life, but as long as I have those seeds planted, their garden is going to be what it is.

And I'm, I'm waiting and excited to see what is gonna grow there. Right. And you're lucky. I, you know, I feel like you're lucky you had that, uh, uncle's guidance. I was always, I don't feel like I don't want to say denied it. It wasn't until like my grandma's deathbed, literally on her death bed, I was on, on the side of her bed and she goes, Trina, do you, do you want to know why you're so different?

Ah, sure. Grandma, what she does. Your great, great grandma was native American. And I was like, wow, I go, why didn't everyone ever talk about it? She goes, we just did it. And I was just like, so then I had to dive into our history history and found out we were shoe shone and yacky and all these beautiful traditional tribes, but we didn't talk about it.

We didn't share it. And it totally solidified why I felt the way I did whenever I got around native ceremony. The first time I heard it. How I wanted to cry that I felt like I was home, he had published. And so it's learning how to find, you know, people out in the community that I had to find teachers, elders, things like that to connect, to, to learn my own version of that, um, medicine for myself.

And what did that look like? Right. With working, we've talked a little bit about self care. And kind of navigating getting up in the morning. What is your favorite self-care practice that you do for, you know, that's self care and alongside my pedicure, Medicare, you know, I'm learning how to be more gentle with myself.

You know, the female touch I so many years, I've always had to take care of somebody and take care of children and all of that stuff. So I love it when my husband puts there for me, you know, those are the things that I actually do. Just a regular old fashioned app. That's always nice with just extra salt lavender sense, and I'm really wanting to be in class on homes.

And how did you adapt to help you? Not only body training people

better.

For work I do now with what I have. Yeah. What resources and simple things. Can I start stepping in to start building the, um, what are three spiritual things you would recommend to our listeners? If they're just kind of curious, you know, have some curiosity or things that, that are simple, but can be profound working with going out in nature and we'll see.

That's the way I learned mostly. Being in nature and me crystal or rock or whatever, and just listening. So, you know, when you start listening in certainly in one room, it's just an amazing place. So many people need to find a guide though. Yeah. And that's where you look at for, you know, that's where you look for the teachers and that's where you learn that they.

For them to guide you and give you that wisdom and then teaches you how to apply it in your life. But doesn't take that power away from you about applying it that it's not them. That's doing it for you, that you are doing it for yourself. Well, Mavis, I want to thank you for coming today. I know you're super busy and everything, and I appreciate you being here.

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