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Age of Ascension and Transition

• Trina Zaragoza and Bill Maez • Season 2 • Episode 2

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Welcome to the mystical musings podcast, where we connect to spirit and give you different perspectives on spiritual topics and engaging conversations with community leaders, healers, and teachers.  Today we have a guest speaker Bill Maez where we will be exploring this age of ascension, transition and so much more. 

Bill holds two master's degrees, one in information technology and a master's in traditional Chinese medicine. He is a medicine man and energy healer, his spiritual path and journeys are the seeker of truth and a minister of God's work.   Come explore the topic of ascension, dark moon, and different views at exploring these different spiritual topics.

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Welcome to the mystical musings podcast, where we connect to spirit and give you a different percective on spiritual topics and engaging conversations with community leaders, healers, and. I am so excited to welcome our special guest bill Mays. His background is fantastic. He holds two master's degrees, one in information technology and a master's in traditional Chinese medicine.

He is a medicine man and energy healer who works with biofield. His spiritual path and journey are the seeker of truth and the minister of God. His training is comprehensive and fast with herbalism close relationship with grandmother plant medicine. He is a member of the Santo Dimey church. He's also a student of philosophy and ancient mysteries.

Welcome, bill. I'm so glad you're here on this journey with us today. Bill. And I have deep conversations where we push the other to look at things differently and challenge the other's beliefs and ideas without judgment. And with an open heart today, we're taking you on this journey with us. You have an amazing background.

 First tell me, before we dive deep into this deep kind of subject of extension and transition, what kind of led you onto this healing path? Well, I've always kind of been interested in, the ancient mystery. And in herbal medicine, it's always been a, more of a hobby of mine. I was a network administrator for University of Colorado for 13 years.

And as herbalism was a hobby of mine, and it was always calling to me, it was calling to me to, to really change my path. I felt like my soul was being drained when I would do my IT work. , but it was a solid career and, you know, I went to school for it. And finally, I just listened to spirit and decided to.

Take the leap and resign and go to Chinese medicine school. And, once I did that, I fell to felt a huge burden off of me. And it felt like I was able to pursue my true soul's calling. And, that's what kind of led me on the, on the path. We've been hearing the words, the age of Ascension and transition.

And when I use those words, Terminology with, with you, what does that bring up? What does those ideas that swirl in your head? That the big thing that comes to mind is,  recognizing that it's an age of transition. It's not really an age of Ascension quite yet, because we have a long way to go, to get to that path.

But it is an age of transition transitioning from, from one age to another. And those transition ages can be generations long. So we just have to recognize that., things that need to take place during this age of transition, things that we don't always look at. And as people on a spiritual path, it's important to kind of change your perception and to really delve deep and to contemplate ideas and things that we are working.

So when you mean contemplate ideas and things we're working on, we got to explore. Yeah, we are going to where we're going to. Okay. So I'll start with this. The age we are entering is an age that the holy spirit is the purveyor of the age, the purveyor of the Trinity, the holy spirit, the holy spirit is the breath of God.

It's a very important aspect of the. It's the, the giver of wisdom. It's the sacred sciences. It's the, the profits, it's the divine teachers. And it's, it's an opportunity for us now to actually start contemplating and to start listening to the holy spirit without fear of persecution. And in a safe space.

So going into some examples, a lot of people in the spiritual path are really waking up to, the sacred sciences, for example, astrology as a sacred science, a lot of people are really starting to connect with our solar system in the cosmos. And it's really beautiful. And, you know, we, we gotta be proud of humanity for really stepping back into these roles and trying to get an understanding.

Of the sacred sciences and using them in our everyday life. Now, one thing with the age of transition is really delving into these ideas and concepts and understanding what they mean. I'll use an example with the new moon and we often people that are on the path, work with the moon energy now. And it's really beautiful.

It's really beautiful. And we have to like honor it and not judge it in any way and be proud of the steps that humane. Are taking, but we also need to contemplate the meanings of these things and really delve deep into the understandings of these,  ideas. Now with the new moon, for example, the new moon is really, it's used almost inappropriately and it's hard to say these things I don't want to judge, and I don't want to sound judgy when I, when I say them, but the new moon, the idea of the new moon is the, the moment when the, the sun and the moon are, there's a conjunction.

Which means the sun is behind the moon, which causes the moon to be dark. We call that the new moon. That's not an appropriate term for the new moon. It's really a dark moon. It's really a black moon. It's a no moon. A new moon is when you start seeing the sun appearing back into the moon. So that small little, first little slip.

Yes. It's a very first Crescent. It's a very first Crescent. And when we work with the new moon, a lot of people understand the energy behind it. They know what it means. They understand that it's, you know, It's a time of degeneration. It's a time of putrefaction it's a time of calcination it's a time of death calling it.

A new moon is really letting the patriarchy still take hold of something that is the most feminine, the most UN the darkest energy in our solar system that we work with, we call it a new moon and that gives it, you know, a, of a masculine kind of twist to it because that is. The real new moon with the Crescent is starting to come back into the masculine part, the energy of the moon.

So to really sit and maybe, you know, take an opportunity with the next dark moon to call it the dark moon. Because even by saying those words, it's a frequency that really changes. If you just sit here and think about it, say dark moon, and then say new moon, you could feel the energetic frequency. Kind of shifts because we go back into the darkness when we say the dark and we're recognizing the, the true feminine aspect.

It's not a coincidence that the dark moon corresponds with the menstrual cycle, right? The, or the actual ministration, something that has also been persecuted and looked down upon and taboo and ugly, the dark gray and the dark. But the dark moon is not pretty, but it's beautiful. Deep inner part of herself.

Right. It's the true shadow aspect to shadow us because it's death that's. But I think we have to re kinda put some things around death when we use the word death. That's not like the death of it's the transition and change is something that no longer serves you. Right. Right, right. And that's why, you know, when I said, when I used words like Kelson.

Instead of death, but our people, you know, a lot of people don't really understand what that means. Calcium calcination processes is a breaking down of the elements. You know, it's the degeneration of, of a physical form. So it's not really dying. It's really just breaking down.  Let's talk about a human being, just breaking down the physical form back into the elements to the alchemy.

Yeah, but the soul doesn't die. We don't die. We're just like a re transformed into something else. So the new moon energy is just that. It's calcination time. The dark one, the dark cozy. I do it too. I'm trying. Oh, I'm going to, and I'm going to start working that. So you're going to start seeing this change in the newsletters because of this conversation that we're having, because I want to honor the trueness and the true energy.

Of that cycle. And these are on all the ancient texts, these ideas, these aren't things, you know, that I'm just making up, but I do con contemplate them. And I do try to change my, my verbiage, because the new moon is a time of,  fertilization. You can't plant a seed without fertilization.

You can't plan a sea without healthy soil, which is caused by the death of other things. You know, it's a time of contemplating what has happened in the past.  a wound cannot support life unless it's cleansed of, of things. Died within it,  so it's just honoring that. And then we step into the new, the new moon phase, which is when we start seeing the light reborn, it's more of like a, an Aries energy.

It's a young, a young energy, a young life. It's the, the seed starting to sprout of the things that we're trying to manifest, but we can't manifest anything until we have a fertile soil. Right. I think we also have to discuss, I mean, I think the shadows gets bad. Right. It's so negative.

And it's actually where we hold a lot of our gifts of our spirit within, because that's the place of creation. That's the place of that abundance being expressed out, right. Or that manifestation being expressed out. And it's very much a feminine. And that's why it's, it's been down. And then this is the shift that we are going to say, when you're talking about ancient text or ancient teachings, what does that entail?

Like, well, you know, that's just can be a general term, but  are there certain texts that you're referring to or teachings that you were referring to in to that piece? We could even get into the biblical texts, the ideas in the, in the Bible, you know, Most people in America kind of could relate to, but also in,  ancient, Hindu texts and, any ancient exited the Mesopotamian, the cuneiform tablets, they all carry these ideas and these concepts, the dead sea scrolls, and they all carry these ideas.

You know, it's not something that's just you, but it's somewhere a bit lost. And somehow we've adopted. We know why it's been lost.  ' Not, it's not a mystery, but we've adopted. These terminologies and we use them freely and daily. And, and again, we have to understand it's a time of transition. So just even speaking of the new moon, but understanding the energy behind it is really sacred and it's beautiful.

And we honor people for doing that, but assigned to like make these little shifts and there's a lot of ideas and concepts that. I feel like that's going to be, what's really gonna happen. Right. I think a lot of this is coming to the forefront, unseen it, and being heard it being talked about more openly where before it was kind of behind closed doors and don't share this information.

So I'm excited, you know, I'm telling you, and the thing is, is like, yes, you're hearing about transition and what people have to realize too. When we go through any kind of transition and shift, there's a grieving person. Cause you have to grieve what you used to know, what was comfortable too, and let that the ideas of how that's, how the idea of it being set was with you because it's comfortable.

Yeah. It's comfortable. Right. Even if it's toxic, it's still comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's scary sometimes moving into these transitions and it can bring up fear. And so the piece. It's important to acknowledge that it's acknowledged the grief it's to acknowledge the fear, but not hold on. And those are, those are very much representative of the dark moon, which is an age that we're in right now.

We're in Asia talking, and this is in regards to like a 40,000 year cycle. So I'm not going to get into that, but  this age that we're in right now, we are in the age of a dark moon process. , those ideas you're talking about are very much relative.  With what's happening now.

And I could give a little example, maybe a little story if you want to. Absolutely. it's a biblical story and I just want to give you two, we'll make it short, but it's going to be two different concepts of,  change of an age. , and you could see the differences of the, of this concept.

And it's the story of Moses on Mount Sinai,  receiving the commandments. Okay. So Moses was on Mount Sinai. Fascinating for 40 days. Okay. And there, he saw the holy spirit and he, he spoke to God and God gave him the commandments. Once Moses came down from the mountain and he saw the Israelites worshiping a golden calf and he was angry and he broke the tablets and went back to the mountain and had to re scribe this.

These commandments and bring them back to the Israelites. That's the story that we see. And when we see this, these pictures that these,  wonderful artists have painted of the Israelites worshiping this big giant goal of the calf, and we just kind of go with that, like, okay, well, that's what it is. God is a, you know, God is an angry God and Moses is angry.

 Now I will tell you the story of the real story of what happens in these ages of transition. Moses was the second child of the Pharaoh, an orphaned or adopted child of the Pharaoh. So he wasn't in line to be the king. He was second in line and the second line doesn't have the duties of a king. He has the ability to.

So really study the ancient scrolls. You got to remember Egypt, Pharaoh has had access to all the ancient wisdom. They had libraries that were vast and full of knowledge. The second in line was really kind of in line as a, as a high priest and had was very studious and was taught all these ancient things, the wisdom.

That's why he was chosen. Right. So when he went to fast for 40 days, he had the ability to comprehend a lot of the mysteries of the ancient mysteries. He received the instruction from God and they were real instruction you received was very deep. He was over 40 days and 40 nights. He received very intricate instructions,  instructions on astrology instructions on health instructions, on prayer instructions on the falling, the sun and the moon and the stars.

And when he came down to. His people. He was so excited to share all this wisdom and he got there and he saw them and he remembered, these are slaves. There are slaves with zero education. They've been scrambling through the desert for years and years, trying to survive with zero education. And the only God they ever had was the, the God the.

And may, where would they ever get this big chunk of gold? They were slaves. They had nothing migrating through the desert, but they did need comfort. So they were trying to find comfort in the calf, the tourists, because they were just getting out of the Tory and age. They were hard to let go of as, as toxic as it was for them.

It was hard for them to let go of. And Moses and his, you know, minor frustration. Cause Moses was a prophet. He was a very loving and God is very benevolent and understanding. They don't want to judge you like that. They're like, okay, let's give them something. They get understand. So we'll give them these basic commandments so they could at least start a transition, very basic things that they could follow.

That's an age of transition, understanding that these slaves were. Stuck on the Tory and age and they didn't want to leave it. Cause that's the only company they've ever found. They didn't understand what was ahead of them. And that's kind of where we are now that oh yeah. I mean, what sounds more, you know, what sounds more legitimate, a God that understands or a guy that's angry, a prophet that's that doesn't understand the, the enslavement process that you're going through or when that's going to be angry.

And break these tablets and just know when you think of source energy, you call God, I call it source. If you go. Yeah, I know it doesn't it doesn't, the energy is all around. Love, the absolute highest vibration of love. And that's, it's never about that judgment when you've ever had it. Have you ever had a near-death experience?

Um, I don't think so. No, maybe, maybe in medicine in medicine, but not like a real physical,

I that's what literally started me on my healing path. I here had a near death experience birthing my first child into this plane. And before I was always wanting to leave this plane, I didn't want to be here. I was in depression. I didn't like life. And then I was given a choice when I was bringing in this light child into the world.

And literally it was nothing but the energy of love, like I can never even tell you the, the energy, nothing that I've ever experienced has ever come close to it. They gave me a choice. I had a choice. And then, then they gave me this, this light child. You know how to do what? And so I changed my whole world, my whole perspective and things like that.

And I knew from that moment on everything, we were taught in our, our Catholic upbringing, that God was not judgmental. It was a place of love, understanding grace too. It's just like when you're working with your children, you're not, you don't disown them because they're making mistakes. You guide them gently and say, okay, let's pick you up and let's walk proud of them for taking one step.

You know, that's the thing with this age of transition, as well as like understanding that every step towards evolution matters, it doesn't matter.  you don't have to reach perfection in this lifetime. So the reason why, you know, it's so important to believe in reincarnation, you know, there's a reason why we're taught not to believe in reincarnation.

There's a reason why you're taught you die. You go to hell. Because it makes it very selfish in this lifetime. It makes you think that all you can achieve in the physical form is in this lifetime. When you believe in reincarnation, you could start understanding that. Well, my duty is to make this world better.

For those that have passed, that are coming into life as I'm alive, and then preparing this planet for me, when I come back into this life, it makes things, so it makes things make so much more sense. Every step in this age of transition and every step that you take towards Ascension towards enlightenment or.

The perfection of humanity matter, every little thing you do. So we don't judge you, you know, I don't judge somebody for not, isn't really working towards this, you know, on this path and they're very selfish, but they have a thought, a thought of like, what if I did this? That's probably. And this lifetime, oh yeah.

That's progress. And we're seeing so many people coming onto this awareness, right. To becoming aware of their higher self and to that connection. And then to that reality of past lives, into that reality that their soul is internal. And that can be a little bit intimidating sometimes when you think of it eternal, right?

I know me. I'm like. Oh, I don't know if I want to be honest. I didn't care for another go around. I may want to go somewhere else, but also you have no concept of how long you've already been here. I'm sure we've been here for millions of years already. And it's like that. I don't know that we haven't even experienced the perfection yet, or we have, I think we have, I think we have to keep us moving on this path.

Does that make sense? I think, yeah. I think even like through  through ceremony, meditation, through experiencing, sacred plant medicine, you're reminded of those pieces and you can take those back to say, okay, I'm recharged. I'm ready to keep going. Does that make sense? Yeah. So we always hear the term or catchphrase one.

And, you know, the deep beliefs in this concept, how does that, like you tell me your, you know, and it's also, you know, the age of transition has also, you know, we're understanding what wellness means and on a physical level, we understand, you know, the physical form is not really a solid form. So that means we're all really connected, you know, in that way.

But also we're connected as, as humans. You know, we say oneness so often and you know, we feel it true in our heart until it's, you're really challenged in that way. We talk about oneness in our prayers and in our philosophy when we're communicating with each other. But do we really know what it means?

One is really means supporting each other on a soul level, for example. So one is, is, has been a kind of a catch phrase in the spiritual community. And it's an understanding that we all are. That everything in the universe is one that we are not solid forms, that we are all vibrating at a certain frequency and we are interconnected, but we lose that concept when we start really being challenged with what oneness is, for example, wrestling ball.

When he passed, there were many people that were dancing on his grave and, and really celebrating his death in a negative way, in a negative way. Being grateful for his death, telling him to rotten hell and, wishing his soul the worst.  we don't have to believe in his ideas and his concepts when he was alive and we should resist those ideas and concepts, vocally and loudly.

But once they pass, we really have to connect with the idea of oneness and pray for their souls and understand. They were victims of indoctrination. They were victims of the institutions of this world that have us enslaved the media, the social media, the new, yeah, the presidents, the governments, the farmers, exactly poisoned in so many ways.

And somebody like that never had the opportunity to re to really reach their true soul self. And we pray for that. We pray for those people and we have an understanding of why they were that way. And it really, almost wasn't their fault.  we don't give them a pass, but we do pray for their soul so that when they reincarnate, they're able to serve humanity and the appropriate way, the way that their soul really is meant to serve, we could really get into some really dark stuff too.

When we start talking about conquistadores, when we start talking about genocide of indigenous people, And we look at these conquistadors or these, you know, these warriors that, that wiped out whole civilizations. And we forget that they are in our DNA, they are in our blood. And we got to remember that these, you know, a lot of these warriors and these soldiers never had an option.

They never had a choice. They were swooped up as children taught to fight . Taught that anything besides what they were were savages. Yeah. That's going on all over the world. Yeah. And you know, it's not, it's not their fault. We don't, you know, we don't give them a pass. We don't, you know, we don't like, but we do know once they pass, once they die.

We pray for their souls and we pray that the light in their higher self. And that was,  one of the things that you really taught me to do with some of our conversations is I started connecting to people. I was really struggling with in the political realm. And I'm not going to name names. But to look at and ask spirit to show you their higher self, and guess you'll get a reality that you did not want, that you did not expect because you will see that light being that they are, that they truly are, and you want them to be that.

And the only way they could be that it was support of all the rest of humanity and with our prayer and with our , hope and wishful thinking and, and  the energy we give. So I always tell people that like go into a journey, go into a meditation and ask to see the higher self of the situation to see the light of the situation.

And you may be surprised in what you're shown and it may give you different eyes. And let you let go of holding on to an idea or a concept. So roughly that you can let it go and let it be what it needs to be. And that you can send something, as you say, with prayers and grace in a gentle way, that's not full of anger, hate,  disconnect that you're able to really do it from a heart place and move into that.

And when you do that, you know, my, my idea is that humanity will ascend to. I just don't prescribe to the idea of like person by person, soul by soul ascending. I think the bodhisattva is the saints. The ascended masters never really had a choice to, to ascend, to heaven. You know, there's an idea that Bodhi solvers chose to work with humanity.

No, they just reached another level, but they're not truly. And I heavenly.

Yeah, these are, and these are just my ideas and my concepts. And I don't, you know, I'm just telling you, like, I contemplate these things and I think about them. I just don't think, you know, if we, if one person is to ascend and they're willing to leave the rest of humanity by I'm going to go, I'm going to go to heaven now.

Bye. Bye. That makes you one worthy right there of Ascension, willing to leave all of humanity. I think we need to, you know, when we have that concept that we ascend together as a whole. We reach the garden of Eden together. We reach heaven together that helps us support each other. That helps us pray for all the souls that, you know, we need this.

To reach that phase. That's why, oh, that's what, you know, that comes back into past lives. And even in this lifetime that we have soul family, people that have purposely incarnated with us to help us grow in these lessons, to help us mature in ways that you know, those soul contract lessons. Right. And when we're talking about that, that's doing it as a joint unit.

It's not one person that's doing it all for. It's all of us, we've all taken these relationships and connections to say, Hey, I'm going to boost you here and you help me here. You know? And that's how it is with a lot of people. And people don't realize, you know, most of the people that we come in contact and have a relationship with, you made some kind of soul contract to say, this is what you're going to teach me, or I'm going to teach you and how we're going to move through this Ascension together.

Yeah. So when you're talking about that, that's what I think of. Yeah. And that way. It's pretty easy in that. Because there are people we love and their community, but we're talking about people that don't know because those are part of our soul groups too. It's just not just the ones that are bringing us love and light into our world.

It's the ones that have taught us lessons to stand in our voice and our power that put us into the wounded healer path, at least for me. So we have this like deeper understanding of this connection, right. And we're, we just talked about the oneness and it's just, when I look at oneness, I think of. I think we are all here to bring different perspectives, different views, different stuff for that collective oneness, right?

We are not meant to be cookie cutters. We're meant to have this unique energy and vibration. That's why everyone has their unique energy frequency. We all have in unique frequency. That's like a fingerprint. Nobody has the same frequency as you. Is it the red rose more beautiful than. Purple violet, you know, no, they're both very different, but they both carry beauty.

That's what the human experience is about. You know, it's, it's the human experiences to be individuals and to have, you know, when we talk religion Savage, different guides and to have different deities, we work with to be very different. Humanity is supposed to be very, you know, complex each and every one of us and have our own.

To serve each other as well. Yeah. It's the service of others. Right. But when, when I say service of others, people always think like, it's hard work. I don't want to, you know, do that. And it's absolutely not. It's like helping be their cheerleaders. It's helping us to kind of level up,, it's that cooperating.

Literally, that's what Spirit's about. Right? So let's kind of loop back to one of the things that you said about how everyone is learning, how to connect to the cosmos through some of the ancient teachings. And you'd stepped, you tapped on one with astrology. Why is so astrology so important for people to start kind of at least getting some basic information around?

Well, the astrology holds very powerful energies that we've totally straight away. And I use, you know, people say they don't believe in astrology often. They don't believe in the energy of the constellations or the sun and the moon. And I'll just give a little example of, of the, the energy that we witness as human beings in a day cycle, we go through every archetype of the Zodiac.

A high noon would be high. Noon would be Leo or. When the sunrises would be Aries. And here's an,  an idea of the, of beings that, that really re-read react to those energies. When the sun first breaks the horizon, the rooster crows, the rooster does not need to see the sun. These are things that you could witness, right?

You hear the rooster Crow without the rooster, seeing the sun, you hear that first Crow, you could look at your clock and then see what time the sun rises, because you can't see the sun yet because there's mountains and there's trees and there's buildings, but it's breaking that. But the rooster is reacting to that energy, right?

That's an energetic process. That's taking place in a day cycle, a true energy that you can witness that, that kind of proves the energy of the Zodiac anyway, in the day. But on all the ancient texts we're taught to follow the soon the sun, the moon, and the stars for signs and for seasons and for holidays, the energies really are very powerful times for prayer and meditation and fast.

But this Julian calendar doesn't allow for a lot of those things. It doesn't allow for us to really work with the moon processes, especially, and that's the feminine sign of the Zodiac. So we,  so just, you know, there's, there's a lot of energy and,  healing, power and instruction. The astrology. Oh yeah.

Oh, we neglect. Oh yeah. I mean, if you really start just learning some basic foundational pieces around it, you'll start to learn your natal chart and you'll see like the, your personalities are really in parts of what's unfolding your life really beach you're like, how did that know that? Yeah. You know, and we can talk about, you know, when from the smallest, which is the date.

To one of the biggest, which is the ages. And one of the ages, the age where entering is an age of Aquarius and, and really delving into the understanding of what, what Aquarius is to, you know, as a transitional age. So let's go into that. What does it mean? First of all, Aquarius is, you know, one of the. Only signs that is a human inform.

It's the water bearer, right? It's an air sign. When we talk, when I was saying that the holy spirit is the purveyor of the Trinity in this age, the holy spirit is the breath of life. It's the rock, the breadth of life. It's the air sign. So when I talk about breathing the breath of life, the breadth of the holy spirit, we're talking about real physical energy, energy cycles, real physical breadth of life.

We're talking about the air movements that carries the water molecules to. As the, as the water bear, the water carries the wisdoms of the permanence, the wisdom of the truth, the wisdom of God, all the, all the instructions that God has given us. When we work with the clean waters, the air is the intellect.

The air is the intellect of mankind. That's the age that we're entering. It's a, it's a mental creation age of humans. We're going to literally see a boom. We carry, we carry the waters of wisdom, wisdom beyond like things you can't even imagine are coming forth. Like what, that's, what they've been showing me.

Like I'm excited. Cause I'm like, and I'm a little bit intimidated too, with some of the stuff that they show me, that's going to be coming in with technology and things like that. But they also have been talking to me about how important. That Pronto life force energy that you're talking about, that breath taking that breadth and that energy and cause right now, and I've been talking about this through all my newsletters and podcasts is that we've been getting certain frequencies and codes that are coming in.

Right. We just went through one with the 2, 2, 2, 2 portal, right. And we it's that time that, that energy, that breath helps reactivate that energy in your body and just breathe. Take the. Set it up on your phone, your apple watch, whatever you need to do, just to take those few deep connective breaths to remind yourself every second.

Right. So you talked a bit, a little bit about reincarnation earlier, and I think we need to kind of delve in, what does Ricar nation mean to you? We've talked about our tr our souls are internal, right? And so why do we recreate as different people or different races? What is the point of all that when we're being recreated in,  the reincarnation process is, is just allowing us the opportunity.

To recreate Eden at our own pace.  it's a way to learn lessons. It's a, it's a way to affect other beings and really pick up on what it means to be human, what it means to make mistakes, what it means to understand where we're headed and where we could be. It's just a process and a long process freewill and reaching the will of God, which is the garden of Eden recreating.

Eden is the. In this physical form in this physical life, you know, I sit back often and I'm like, you know how easy it is, how easy it would be to be back there, how easy it would be if we all just submit to the natural. So the universal law, we all agreed. I remember when COVID started and we were on lockdown for whatever, a couple of weeks or whatever, and it was just like dead out there.

I mean, as far as cars and people, but you could look out there and you could see the birds flying all over by the high res and nature was thriving and that's how quick it happened. You know, but reincarnation, you know, there's a, there's a long process and I have a lot of study on the idea of reincarnation and when the soul enters the body, when it leaves and how it enters in the portals that comes from.

And,  I know the podcast, it's a whole other podcast. Yeah. But it's okay. So let's talk about traditions of our ancestors and we're ready for this transitioning to, for the health of the. What'd you mean by that these concepts get really touchy. So I, I try to be very cautious, but you know, again, they're my ideas and my concepts of, of these ideas and the ages of transition and understanding the traditions that have been in the past.

For example,  there's a lot of sacred NUS behind a lot of the food that had been eaten in like indigenous communities for a long time. A lot of that is. And the way they have been hunting animals for a long time and eating needs, and they've done it in beautiful and sacred ways. And we thank the meat for getting humanity through a time that they needed it to survive.

And God understood that. And God honored the way the human beings were. Hunting also grains. You know, we have this tradition of eating grains often and with our tortillas and our bread and it's survival food. And we thank it for getting our people through ages of, of life and survival. And we thank the grain for that and they did it in an honorable way.

But now in this age of transition, we got to understand that traditions are meant to change. We no longer need to eat meat every day for survival, we no longer need to kill the animals. We have access to fruits, healthy fruits and vegetables. We no longer need eat, eat the grains and the wheats and the flowers.

Cause we don't need to store it for through the winter, living in the wild. We don't need it anymore. It's unhealthy for us. These are ideas that we have to like start contemplating and thinking, what do we need to do to be healthy? And you know, these ancestors in these traditions are still carrying. But they're unhealthy for us.

They're truly unhealthy for us. You cannot debate that, that we ingrains are healthy for you and our people eat them daily all day. Every day I eat them, you know, but I try my best to cut down and try not to eat the flour. And, you know, and yeah, and even in meat, you know, meat is something that a lot of our ancestors living as a service, like still eat three times a day, you know, they can say, well, I hunted it and it's fresh.

And then I gave it a blessing and this. It's not good for you or people that are in a healthy, and they're not living long and they're not living healthy lives. And we have access now to healthier foods. Well, I see that changing. I see that, that social consciousness and awareness and for the ones that like scientific proof with stuff, I encourage you to watch the docu-series the game-changers on Netflix.

It just shows you how proteins. Works in our body and how our body fights it and goes to an inflammatory process for my little science people. If you want some proof of this, we'll go there. Right. And grades and they talk, they talk about, you know, it talks about wheats and stuff like that because the true weeds.

They've been modified so much. It's no longer that true grain. And even the two greens have things like lectins and, you know, they call also cause inflammatory things. But I think mostly you're saying, you know, even though we've had set ways of doing things because it's been passed down through generations that we're in a time of transition and change.

And then it's okay to modify some of those tradition, you know, and here's the thing. And I'll explain my words. Cause I do use certain words that trigger people and I'll explain them tradition over the word of God tradition over the instruction from the Lord. Tradition taking tradition over that is a sin.

Okay. And when I talk about Sin, I'm talking about a transgression against universal law. For example, putting your finger in the fire of a flame is a sin, and you're gonna pay for it. But you having a burnt finger, it's not a sin in the way that we think of sin. So as soon as just a transgression, we hold onto these traditions, knowing that they're unhealthy for us, just because it's been our ancestor did it, but they did it for a reason because they had.

All right. They were migrating. They were living in the wild, they had to hunt. We don't need to do that. So we could make these changes, you know, and I think this even is said with ceremony and ritual too, right? I mean, I always say trust what spirit is giving you because it's giving you exactly what you're being guided for.

You. For you. Right. Even when I put things out for my newsletters, with ceremony and ritual, I encourage people, change it, make it yours, make it and guide it for what is called to you. It doesn't have to be this like this because you know, this is what Trina said. No, you get guided. You listen to your gut, listen to that intuition or how it tells you.

How to lead that ceremony and ritual for you to receive the true instruction on those kinds of things. You also need to be physically healthy. You know, you have to be physically healthy, we have to eat, right. And you know, to really receive instruction, we disregard this human body. Also, there's also this idea of like people say, this is all an illusion, this isn't real, you know, I'm like, that's just crediting this gift that of, of the human form of the body, of the physical things that we work.

That's disregarding that gift that God has given us. So to have a clan, to have a clear, clear channel and to eat healthy, we're able to really receive those instructions, our own rituals, our own ceremony, and what makes that less valid, valid, then whatever a profit received thousands of years ago. And it doesn't make it less valid than that.

It's just as it's just as valid, we have the ability to, to receive these instructions on how to work with. You know that the sun, the moon, the stars, and our prayer and our fasting and all these things and how to work with your own ceremonies and rituals. And, and that, that piece that you're talking about, the human body is a gift.

Literally one time when I was in deep meditation with my council of spirits and they were showing me the waiting list that other spirits want to come in to be able to experience this physical form. Like there is like a waiting list. I mean, that sounds crazy when people are like, what I waiting. Those takes variances.

Yes. Because when you think of the human experience, think of like hugging that person, think of being able to taste and drink and swim in the ocean. Think of all those experiences that you would not be able to do. Yeah. I've seen, I've seen the, I've seen angels and other deities, like, just look at us and just in.

Oh, my God. I wish I could experience the physical, the physical form, the touch things. I can't even fathom, just like we can't add them. A lot of the other things in other realms.

I remember in ceremony I remember in ceremony one time I saw this line of. Of ancestors and they were not in a physical form. They were like very geometrically shaped. And I saw, you know, a very firm native looking guy with his arms crossed a salve elderly woman. Then I saw this little joker dude, little gesture duty, just look a little squirrely and square me and he's running around and he's tapping all of them on the shoulder and pointing at me.

And he's like, he's here, he's here. He's here. Oh my God. He's here. He was just excited as excited to see me as I was to see them. So, so they look at us, you know, and they recognize our divinity honor what we are and they're willing to help us. Oh yeah, definitely. It's beautiful. Well, I want to thank you for having me.

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